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Poster: sadsack Date: Jul 5, 2012 6:29am
Forum: feature_films Subject: 2 Bulldog Drummond movies copyrighted?

are these two still copyrighted, and if so, does this mean they cannot be uploaded to the Archive?

13 Lead Soldiers (1948) with Tom Conway [20th Century Fox]
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040063/

The Challenge (1948) with Tom Conway [20th Century Fox]
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040224/

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Jul 5, 2012 9:16pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: 2 Bulldog Drummond movies copyrighted?


are these two still copyrighted, and if so, does this mean they cannot be uploaded to the Archive?


Yes. Of course. Obviously. That goes without saying. Otherwise, of what possible use would copyright be?

I already told you in another forum that copyrighted movies must not be uploaded. That's the whole point of having copyright protection, isn't it? Isn't that why you can't find "Gone with the Wind" here? Think about it for a little while and see what you conclude.

In another forum, you said that you were unfamiliar with the rules. So why didn't you try to find out about the rules before you uploaded a movie? Why didn't you read what is written at the top of the Feature Films page:


Do you want to post a feature film? First, figure out if it's in the Public Domain. Read this FAQ about determining if something is PD.



Both of the films you mentioned are, not surprisingly, still under copyright because their copyrights were renewed. The fact that a film was released in the 1940s or 1930s does not mean that the film is p.d. Most films, even old films, that you can think of are still protected by copyright. Films don't "fall" into the public domain; they aren't tightrope walkers.


R629119.
13 lead soldiers. By Twentieth
Century-Fox Corporation. (c) 6Apr48;
11880. Edward Small Productions, Inc.
(PWH): 30Mar76; R629119.


R600140.
The Challenge. 7 reels. (c) 12Feb48;
L1881. Twentieth Century-Fox Film
Corporation (PBH); 24Feb75; R600140.


This post was modified by Moongleam on 2012-07-06 04:16:56

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Poster: sadsack Date: Jul 5, 2012 9:19am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: 2 Bulldog Drummond movies copyrighted?

sorry, I will check if the copyright is visible on film credits next time. However, it does say in the PD FAQ to post the question in the forum; I think you told me that in regards to "Ninth Guest" as well.

"For works made from 1923 to 1949, post a question to the movie forum on this site before you upload. The copyright could have been renewed and there isn't a way online to check a film's copyright status."

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Jul 6, 2012 12:43am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: 2 Bulldog Drummond movies copyrighted?

Sadsack, you did exactly what you're supposed to do. Feel free to post any questions you may have in this forum. The dumbest questions are the ones that aren't asked. You have nothing you need to apologize for.

This post was modified by guyzilla on 2012-07-06 07:43:06

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Poster: Penguin Reader Date: Jul 5, 2012 10:16pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: 2 Bulldog Drummond movies copyrighted?

"Moongleam"-There is no reason to be so disrespectful when some one asks a question-unless, even if you you have all the answers. That being said, it is difficult (according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_in_the_public_domain_in_the_United_States - sorry, I am not an expert like you are so I had to look it up) to determine if a film is still under copyright because different elements can receive a copyright (literature, character, Cinematography, etc.). But, if you can not rely in a civil manner you should not reply. Since I am not the expert you are, I could be wrong in some or all of what I have said-EXCEPT you really should be more civil in your response.

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Poster: elmagno Date: Jul 5, 2012 9:02pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Possible to Lighten Up?

It would be civilized of you to stop snapping at people again and again.Some of them you may be driving off.